5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

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5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #1by kristoffer » 19.12.2012, 18:13

5 planets have been detected around the sun-like star Tau Ceti, which is 11.9 light-years from Earth. There is also detected a possible habitable world.
Tau Ceti is also a target for searching extraterrestrial life, which SETI are working on.

The minimum mass of this potentially habitable world is 4.3 times of Earth's mass.
Nobody know if this is a rocky world, it can be an ocean world. The year of this planet, is 168 days, and the planet is located around the "Goldilocks zone" to Tau Ceti, but the distance is not yet confirmed.

http://www.space.com/18967-nearby-habit ... -ceti.html


This is really exciting and really fun to read. I like these kinds of news.


The planet can possible be something like this
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #2by omega13a » 19.12.2012, 18:43

In the article I read, the one in the habitable zone is the smallest yet detected in the habitable zone of a star.
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #3by kristoffer » 19.12.2012, 18:48

omega13a wrote:In the article I read, the one in the habitable zone is the smallest yet detected in the habitable zone of a star.

Me too. I read it, but it is the mass of the planet that decides if it is a rocky or gaseous or whatever. What the planet is gonna produce
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #4by granthutchison » 19.12.2012, 23:35

I've already posted a link to the original arxiv paper, and notification that I've added these planets to Celestia's SVN tree.
See here: http://www.shatters.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=17180
Not sure why we needed another thread on the same topic.

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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #6by Fenerit » 20.12.2012, 03:39

"We pioneered new data modeling techniques by adding artificial signals to the data and testing our recovery of the signals with a variety of different approaches," Tuomi said in statement. "This significantly improved our noise modeling techniques and increased our ability to find low-mass planets."

I think to have a vague idea of what they account for. A similar kind of techniques were applied also in the audio-restoration realm years ago; either to add harmonics to the bass line or in modelling the noise floor of the tape to S/N ratio, before to develop specific softwares.
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #7by Hungry4info » 20.12.2012, 13:31

olyv wrote:But i think that 4.3 times the terrestrial mass is too heavy for chemical reactions for life is done because gravity would be too high ... no ?
Why? There's a ~100 Earth-mass planet in our solar system with less surface gravity than Earth. Clearly the planet's mass can't be the only deciding factor in the surface gravity.
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #8by Hungry4info » 20.12.2012, 14:42

olyv wrote:i spoke about rocky planets and not gas giants (like you)....
a "hypothetical" rocky planet four times heavier than the Earth should have a stronger gravity.

Correct. My point, given that no assumptions of the planet's composition was stated, was that the planet could be one of those low-density "mini-Neptunes" that Kepler has been finding. Consider the Kepler-11 system for example, and remember that the Tau Ceti planets, provided they exist, are most likely more massive than their stated minimum masses as derived from radial velocity.

Assuming the Tau Ceti planets exist, if they have surfaces, I will be surprised.
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #9by granthutchison » 20.12.2012, 18:48

john Van Vliet wrote:Thanks Grant
Pleasure. Thanks for taking the time to say thanks. :)

olyv wrote:But i think that 4.3 times the terrestrial mass is too heavy for chemical reactions for life is done because gravity would be too high ... no ?
Can't think why. Chemistry's pretty much immune to gravity.

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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #11by julesstoop » 20.12.2012, 23:13

Hungry4info wrote:Why? There's a ~100 Earth-mass planet in our solar system with less surface gravity than Earth. Clearly the planet's mass can't be the only deciding factor in the surface gravity.

Since when does Saturn have a surface? :wink:
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #12by Cham » 21.12.2012, 03:36

(just for fun) :wink:

I remind you that tau Ceti is part of the famous Betty Hills map. That star is just in the middle of the map 8O . See here :
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Isn't that extraordinary ? (or maybe we should say "exordinary" ?)

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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #13by Hungry4info » 21.12.2012, 04:12

julesstoop wrote:Since when does Saturn have a surface? :wink:
:lol: I assume your question was meant in jest. :P
That partly alludes to my point though: We don't know the Tau Cet planets have surfaces (because we don't know their bulk composition).
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #14by omega13a » 23.12.2012, 21:09

julesstoop wrote:
Hungry4info wrote:Why? There's a ~100 Earth-mass planet in our solar system with less surface gravity than Earth. Clearly the planet's mass can't be the only deciding factor in the surface gravity.

Since when does Saturn have a surface? :wink:

Technically, it does. If you go down deep enough, you'll find something solid due to the pressure inside the planet though good luck trying to get to it. :P
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Re: 5 planets detected orbiting Tau Ceti

Post #15by Hungry4info » 24.12.2012, 01:39

A surface implies a sudden phase transition. Saturn likely lacks one.
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