FINAL release of new Mercury model DONE!!

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FINAL release of new Mercury model DONE!!

Post #1by ElChristou » 03.09.2005, 02:36

Hello guys,

I'm waiting for the release of the shuttle for several reasons, so in the meantime I have done this one.

Everybody can tx Andrea for his good job finding all the necessary documents to do the model... so... Andrea, tx again :wink:

A prerelease can be downloaded HERE (3.6Mo)

The ssc is not completely ok as I still met lot of problems in the positioning of the models... (one day I really have to learn all about ssc...)

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Post #2by Lucien-Axial » 03.09.2005, 03:20

From the pictures, the model looks awesome, even in it's pre-release state. I'm downloading it right now. Thanks for all your contributions, they really add to the realisim of this great solar system simulator.

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Post #3by ANDREA » 03.09.2005, 07:41

I can only say... WOW! 8O
Incredibly detailed and realistic, a most important feature for my "Space conquest tour" under construction. :wink:
I think that this, like Big HST, Deep Impact, Cassini-Huygens, your next Shuttle and some other model realized in the last couple years, are the new chapter in Celestia 3DS modelling. 8)
This means that in the future the most demanding problem will be more and more the graphic card power, and this convincted me to wait a bit and spend some more money to buy the 7800 instead of the 6600.
Beauty costs money, alas! :cry:
Well done, Chris, it has been a pleasure to give my little help.
So I invite the Celestia 3DS gurus to contact me for documental support, if they need it, I'll be happy to give my help. :wink:
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Post #4by ElChristou » 03.09.2005, 11:33

Lucien-Axial wrote:...even in it's pre-release state...


The model is almost over, I must end the ssc and for that I'm still waiting a response of the ML team (after a week now!! :evil:) because I want to add in it an InfoURL, and want to know if the webpage can be host on ML with the model...
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Post #5by BrainDead » 03.09.2005, 14:07

ElChristou...

Awesome... You are fast-becoming my favorite modeler... Sorry Jestr 8O

This is an absolutely beautiful representation of the spacecraft. I've already
installed your Atlantis model, also with extreme appreciation for the detail.

Much appreciated are your efforts here.
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Post #6by bh » 04.09.2005, 00:18

Chris...bloody great! You are the modeller we've been waiting for! Gemini?

regards...bh.

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Post #7by ElChristou » 04.09.2005, 01:02

bh wrote:...Gemini?


Much later of course... :wink:
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Post #8by BlindedByTheLight » 06.09.2005, 08:27

Hey - I've been aware from the forum for a bit... and still will be - but I just wanted to weigh in... VERY NICE!!!!
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Re: NEW Mercury Model : Liberty Bell 7

Post #9by sundog » 17.09.2005, 18:19

ElChristou wrote:Everybody can tx Andrea for his good job finding all the necessary documents to do the model...


Did those documents happen to have an 'inside' view of LB? ;)


As usual, many thanks for your work.

And thanks Andrea for the search time.


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Re: NEW Mercury Model : Liberty Bell 7

Post #10by ElChristou » 17.09.2005, 18:30

sundog wrote:Did those documents happen to have an 'inside' view of LB? ;)


Yes and no; yes some drawings, but not enough photos so it would be a real hard task to model a decent interior...
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Re: NEW Mercury Model : Liberty Bell 7

Post #11by sundog » 17.09.2005, 19:15

ElChristou wrote:
sundog wrote:Did those documents happen to have an 'inside' view of LB? ;)

Yes and no; yes some drawings, but not enough photos so it would be a real hard task to model a decent interior...


It's ok I was (half) joking, and I know you have more than enough work to do already.

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Re: NEW Mercury Model : Liberty Bell 7

Post #12by ANDREA » 17.09.2005, 22:53

sundog wrote:
ElChristou wrote:
sundog wrote:Did those documents happen to have an 'inside' view of LB? ;)
Yes and no; yes some drawings, but not enough photos so it would be a real hard task to model a decent interior...
It's ok I was (half) joking, and I know you have more than enough work to do already. bye sundog

Hello sundog, if you would like to make a try in detailing interiors, here

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http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/mercury/mahlof.html

and in the "next photo series" here

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http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/mercury/ma9.html
and here

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http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/mercury/ma10.html

you can find many fine details of the instruments. 8)
Moreover, I have the technical manuals of the Mercury spacecrafts, with all the drawings neede to detail the instruments.
If this is not enough, I can give you other images addresses.
Inform me if you ish to try interiors detailing. :wink:
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Post #13by BrainDead » 18.09.2005, 17:20

Just a word of advice to those of you who have texture size restrictions on
your PC's...

I had to re-size the "United States/Liberty Bell 7" texture to 1024x512
before I could see the spacecraft as El Christou meant it to be displayed.

This is simply a limitation imposed on textures on MY machine, but I
thought I'd mention it just FYI.

Again, El Christou... Thanks for the spectacular work here. Much appreciated.
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Post #14by ElChristou » 18.09.2005, 19:01

BrainDead wrote:Just a word of advice to those of you who have texture size restrictions on
your PC's...

I had to re-size the "United States/Liberty Bell 7" texture to 1024x512
before I could see the spacecraft as El Christou meant it to be displayed.

This is simply a limitation imposed on textures on MY machine, but I
thought I'd mention it just FYI.

Again, El Christou... Thanks for the spectacular work here. Much appreciated.


Oops :oops: :oops:, sorry I forgot this point...
That's a real problem, because in 1024 the resolution must not be enough to match the model's details... :?
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Post #15by BrainDead » 18.09.2005, 20:37

ElChristou wrote:Oops :oops: :oops:, sorry I forgot this point...
That's a real problem, because in 1024 the resolution must not be enough to match the model's details... :?

El Christou...

I looked at the rendered Liberty Bell 7 very carefully via Doctor Schrempp's and
Toti's version of Celestia FT1, and I saw absolutely no discrepancies that
made any differences to the spacecraft as I thought it ought to look. Of
course, there could be some minor off-setting going on here, but I certainly
didn't notice any. The only thing I see that doesn't match the original
spacecraft (as far as I can tell) is the addition of your American Flag under
the "United States" text. See the following image HERE for more clarification.

Again, just FYI.
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Post #16by bh » 18.09.2005, 22:53

Holy moly!...looks like an old washing machine with parts added for a 'Doctor Who?' episode!

These men were brave methinks.

regards...bh.

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Post #17by ElChristou » 18.09.2005, 23:05

BrainDead wrote:...The only thing I see that doesn't match the original
spacecraft (as far as I can tell) is the addition of your American Flag under
the "United States" text. See the following image HERE for more clarification...


Yep, this is a small problem... Apparently Freedom7 had the flag (enterior to LB7), I'm sure for Sigma and Aurora, and LB7 clearly no on the document you point me to... The problem is that I'm not sure about both sides...
Now Most of models of Mercury capsule are shown with the flag (even LB7)... Should I remove it to match the historical one in the final release?
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Post #18by selden » 18.09.2005, 23:26

My personal bias would be to make it historically accurate. Just because others make mistakes doesn't mean that you have to make the same ones!
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Post #19by BrainDead » 19.09.2005, 00:20

bh wrote:These men were brave methinks.

An understatement... But, methinks you're right! :wink:
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Post #20by BrainDead » 19.09.2005, 00:25

ElChristou wrote:Should I remove it to match the historical one in the final release?

Entirely up to you, my friend...

I mentioned the matter only for your information. Far be it for me to
tell you how to make your models. These are clearly superior efforts,
and so I have no problems with the current version whatsoever.

Just for your further enlightenment, however, HERE is the OTHER side of the
same spacecraft. Doesn't look like there was a flag here either, but it's hard
to tell without the hatch attached. <grin>
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