Positional ssc for everything* on the moon's surface!

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Positional ssc for everything* on the moon's surface!

Post #1by JackHiggins » 24.05.2003, 18:41

Hey all

Heres a set of large ssc files i've created, to position all manmade objects on the moon's surface.

* When I say "everything" i mean everything that it was possible to get coordinates for. Some lunar orbiter and other missions' impact sites are unknown.

All objects also come with a "Beginning" line, to start them only after the moment of touchdown/impact! Download from http://homepage.eircom.net/~jackhiggins/celestia/ , in the zip file you can view them as Spacecraft or Asteroids if you want. (Grey labels are hard to see against the moon texture.) Here's a quick screenshot first though-
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ssc files specify a total of 48 objects!!

Hope you like it! Models of landers coming soon... :D
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Post #2by Calculus » 24.05.2003, 19:27

Very interesting. Thanks.
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Post #3by billybob884 » 24.05.2003, 19:41

now all we need is models for everything!
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Post #4by Darkmiss » 24.05.2003, 21:39

Jack a quick question:

When do you find the time to Eat, Drink, sleep, and so on.... :roll:
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Post #5by bh » 24.05.2003, 23:46

Bloody great Jack...as usual.

Many thanks...bh.

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Post #6by JackHiggins » 25.05.2003, 00:13

Darkmiss wrote:Jack a quick question:

When do you find the time to Eat, Drink, sleep, and so on.... :roll:
I've had this done for ages- I just never put it up because I couldnt get coordinates for 1 or 2 crashed Luna's... (Thanks a lot USSR for keeping everything secret... :( ) This particular thing took me around 2 weeks or so to put together...!

billybob884 wrote:now all we need is models for everything!

I have seen a few Apollo Lunar Module models around, but I can't seem to find any at the moment... I have one made myself (well, I adapted a Shrox Apollo LM + CM model slightly...) but I know there are better ones out there..
Anyone have any good links for this?
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Apollo 12 and Surveyor

Post #7by Matt McIrvin » 25.05.2003, 19:01

That's pretty cool!

The Apollo 12 LM was within easy walking distance of the Surveyor 3 site, wasn't it? The astronauts brought pieces back (and live, encysted bacteria were found on it, which had apparently survived on the Moon for a couple of years-- though lately some questions have been raised about that; it could have been post-recovery contamination).

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Re: Apollo 12 and Surveyor

Post #8by Matt McIrvin » 25.05.2003, 19:02

Matt McIrvin wrote:That's pretty cool!

The Apollo 12 LM was within easy walking distance of the Surveyor 3 site, wasn't it? The astronauts brought pieces back (and live, encysted bacteria were found on it, which had apparently survived on the Moon for a couple of years-- though lately some questions have been raised about that; it could have been post-recovery contamination).


Aha, I get it now-- "LM" means the ascent stage crash site, not the landing site!

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Re: Apollo 12 and Surveyor

Post #9by JackHiggins » 25.05.2003, 20:57

Matt McIrvin wrote:
Matt McIrvin wrote:That's pretty cool!

The Apollo 12 LM was within easy walking distance of the Surveyor 3 site, wasn't it? The astronauts brought pieces back (and live, encysted bacteria were found on it, which had apparently survived on the Moon for a couple of years-- though lately some questions have been raised about that; it could have been post-recovery contamination).

Aha, I get it now-- "LM" means the ascent stage crash site, not the landing site!


Yup, Apollo 12 landed a few hundred meters away from Surveyor 3, and here's the photo (You're correct about everything else too btw):

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Unfortunately Celestia seems to show them as being seperated by a few km for some reason, even though the coords are definitely correct...

I wouldn't be at all surprised if those little microbes had survived for 3 years on the moon, although on the other hand I guess in 1969 their sterile clean rooms wouldn't have been quite as -sterile- ...

And, on a slightly related note, The Soviet Luna 20 landed around 100m away from Luna 18 (which was nearly destroyed on impact but still sent some weak signals back)

Luna 24 landed around 5km from Luna 23 too. (Luna 23 was also destroyed on it's landing attempt)
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HankR

Post #10by HankR » 01.06.2003, 04:17

In the screenshot, several of the spacecraft are showing thru from sites on the far side. Hopefully someday that will be fixed...

- Hank

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Post #11by JackHiggins » 01.06.2003, 17:14

HankR wrote:In the screenshot, several of the spacecraft are showing thru from sites on the far side. Hopefully someday that will be fixed...


You mean the labels right? That is a bit annoying, but there are only a few on the far side anyway..

Interesting to note though, that Star labels do get covered by objects, whereas other object labels don't.
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HankR

Post #12by HankR » 01.06.2003, 19:29

JackHiggins wrote:...but there are only a few on the far side anyway.

Actually, I was reminded of this problem with labels as I was working on a similar add-on for Mars lander locations (including the upcoming ones), which aren't mostly in one hemisphere.

- Hank


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