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The 200" Hale Telescope on Mt. Palomar

Post #1by selden » 27.12.2006, 22:53

A model of the Hale Telescope on a DEM of Palomar Mountain and tracking Tau Ceti is available at
http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celest ... ope_v1.zip
(2.5MB)

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This addon works with Celestia v1.5.0pre2 and not with previous versions of Celestia. I suspect some changes will be needed for v1.5.0final.

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A Web page describing the Addon in more detail is available at
http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celest ... scope.html

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22 Dec 2007: V2 of the Addon is now available.
http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celest ... ope_v2.zip
(10.4MB, expands to 51MB)
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12Mar09: sorry, I forgot to update this. V3 became available in late December, 2008, adding control desks and more model details. It was announced in
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13326

http://celestiamotherlode.net/creators/ ... ope_v3.zip
(19 MB expands to 88MB)
For more info, see
http://www.lepp.cornell.edu/~seb/celest ... scope.html
and
http://celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/s ... on_id=1274
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Post #2by Juan Marino » 28.12.2006, 19:33

Selden,

I added other satellital image to celestia\extras\hale_telescope_v1\textures\medres\palomar_topo5.jpg here ---> palomar_topo5.jpg

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Post #3by selden » 28.12.2006, 23:05

Juan,

Thanks!

That certainly makes the mountain ridges look realistic!

I put it in hires so I could use r and R to switch back and forth. That makes it obvious that the maps and model aren't quite aligned with one another :(

Could you provide an image of a slightly larger area so I could try making them all the same? Also, where did you get the image? If its license allows me to include it in the Addon, I'd like to include the appropriate credits.
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Post #4by Juan Marino » 29.12.2006, 02:32

Also, where did you get the image? If its license allows me to include it in the Addon, I'd like to include the appropriate credits.


Selden,

:? I really guess this license not allows us because is an image from Google Earth (copyright 2006 Europa Technologies)

:o :? ...i am sorry,

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Post #5by PlutonianEmpire » 29.12.2006, 04:09

wait, you mean we can't use images from GE to make planets? :( :cry:
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Post #6by Celestial_Planets » 29.12.2006, 05:32

PlutonianEmpire wrote:wait, you mean we can't use images from GE to make planets?


I'm afraid not.
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Post #7by PlutonianEmpire » 29.12.2006, 06:21

Celestial_Planets wrote:
PlutonianEmpire wrote:wait, you mean we can't use images from GE to make planets?

I'm afraid not.

:evil: :x :cry:
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Post #8by Celestial_Planets » 29.12.2006, 12:40

Oops! :oops:

Maybe I shouldn't have been involved in this thread. Sorry.
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Post #9by selden » 29.12.2006, 13:19

Right: if you carefully read G.E.'s license, you are not allowed to publish any of its images or works derived from them without the permission of all of the copyright holders. What you do with that data for your own personal, private enjoyment is up to you, of course.
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Post #10by Sky Guy » 02.01.2007, 17:30

I would like to thank Seldon for his hard work on this project! The model of the telescope & dome looks great! :D

Once we have v1.5.0final for the mac it will actually be shown to visitors at Palomar.

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Hale in Motion

Post #11by selden » 20.10.2007, 23:15

V2 of this Addon is almost finished.
It'll be available RealSoonNow. ;)

In the meantime, here's a 1.5 minute video showing some of its features. Several parts of the telescope can be manipulated and its light paths can be animated.

"Hale in Motion"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d68rm53q8o
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Re: Hale in Motion

Post #12by hank » 20.10.2007, 23:24

selden wrote:In the meantime, here's a 1.5 minute video showing some of its features.

Fabulous work, Selden. Kudos. (Let's see Seeker3D do that!)

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Re: Hale in Motion

Post #13by ElChristou » 20.10.2007, 23:29

selden wrote:V2 of this Addon is almost finished.
It'll be available RealSoonNow. ;)

In the meantime, here's a 1.5 minute video showing some of its features. Several parts of the telescope can be manipulated and its light paths can be animated.

"Hale in Motion"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d68rm53q8o


8O 8O 8O

This is incredible!
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Post #14by Cham » 20.10.2007, 23:30

Selden,

this is absolutly FREAKINGLY FABULOUS and AWESOME !

How the %&*# hell did you achieved that animation in Celestia ?!? 8O

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Post #15by ElChristou » 20.10.2007, 23:34

Beuh, Selden, if after that you have nothing to do, I have a few antennas to deploy and a few thrusters to fire for the Apollo mission! :lol:
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Post #16by BobHegwood » 20.10.2007, 23:54

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Post #17by selden » 20.10.2007, 23:59

I'm glad you folks enjoy it :)

The animation is done using ScriptedOrbit and ScriptedRotation Lua routines. They detect the selection of various DSC objects which are used to trigger motion and visibility of the telescope's pieces.

I'm actually rather unhappy with the video. The timing changes caused by using Celestia's movie recorder messed up the rotation of the dome and of the telescope.
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Post #18by chris » 23.10.2007, 08:12

I just now watched the video. Wow! I'm very impressed with your clever use of scripted orbits and rotations. Vastly cooler than anything that I've done with them!

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Post #19by bh » 23.10.2007, 08:32

Good grief... superb work there Selden.
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Post #20by Sky Guy » 20.12.2007, 23:04

I've been looking at Seldon's work on this and I am quite impressed. I work at Palomar and he certainly has done a fantastic job.


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