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Post #61by Lafuente_Astronomy » 21.11.2019, 22:36

SVision, just in case you want to make more Black Holes, I can give you at least a list from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes
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Post #62by Lafuente_Astronomy » 08.12.2019, 23:34

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Post #63by SevenSpheres » 08.12.2019, 23:40

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Post #64by Lafuente_Astronomy » 09.12.2019, 00:34

SevenSpheres wrote:LB-1, too.

Oh yeah, forgot about that one. I found out about LB-1 from Anton Petrov
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Post #65by SVision » 19.12.2019, 12:24

Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:SVision, just in case you want to make more Black Holes, I can give you at least a list from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_massive_black_holes
Thank You :smile:
I use that list.
Although I'll write a lot of black holes there.
You have to look for everything in scientific articles :think: .

Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:This one looks interesting: http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/triple-supermassive-black-hole-07638.html
A triple black hole, I know.
But it's gonna be hard to implement. There's no exotic visual effects that gravity lensing creates. Because we don't have gravity lensing. I doubt it can be obtained without changing the code. Blender is mastering all my models.

I'll add another article on the dubious massive nature of LB-1.
Probably this black hole has a mass of "only" 5 MSol

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Post #66by Lafuente_Astronomy » 19.12.2019, 22:27

Hello Vision, sorry if I didn't get your message yesterday. I gotta ask: How's progress in learning 3D modelling? and the current progress of your other black hole addons.
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Post #67by SVision » 23.12.2019, 13:12

Hello Lafuente_Astronomy :smile:

I'm working on black holes
And judging from my new work, successfully.

I'm learning modeling too, but... so far, everything I've done at Blender doesn't apply to Celestia :eh: ...
Apparently, to create a full black hole, you need to update the shaders of the program itself and the model will not achieve it.

But I did my work differently. Later on, I'll tell you the secret of how to do it :biggrin:

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far quasar QSO J0906+6930


Now I'm renewing my black holes and making them "skeleton".
Who isn't in the discord I'll tell you right away that the new models of black sprite holes look very beautiful.
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Post #68by Lafuente_Astronomy » 23.12.2019, 13:24

SVision wrote:Hello Lafuente_Astronomy

I'm working on black holes
And judging from my new work, successfully.

I'm learning modeling too, but... so far, everything I've done at Blender doesn't apply to Celestia ...
Apparently, to create a full black hole, you need to update the shaders of the program itself and the model will not achieve it.

But I did my work differently. Later on, I'll tell you the secret of how to do it.

Now I'm renewing my black holes and making them "skeleton".
Who isn't in the discord I'll tell you right away that the new models of black sprite holes look very beautiful.

Well, either way, it looks good, and is very well rendered on Celestia. And I must say, while 3D programming via Blender didn't work out for you, at least it was still applied very well here. In short, You are really very good at this! Either way, which black hole will you be releasing for the third addition to your addons? I'm curious as to which one.

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Also, is it ok with you if I use a screenshot of your Sagittarius A* as my new profile pic? Thanks in advance

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Also, with regard to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q0906+6930 , the black hole you just made is quiet a known one. It's the most distant blazar, that's for one. But for the distance, there is the distance of 12.3 billion light years, and the co-moving distance of about 26 billion light years. And in yours, the distance says 22815, and what appears to be the Cyrillic version of the word Megaparsec. Supposing that it is indeed 22815 Megaparsecs, the equivalent in light years is around 74412577576.1 light years. Is your distance estimate the correct one?
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Post #69by SVision » 23.12.2019, 14:34

Yes.
I am currently working on an addon that will add to Celestia the most distant objects that man knows (galaxies, etc.).
A lot of work... and creating black holes with sprites...
That's why I'm looking for methods that make black+rendering easier and more realistic.

I think these black hole versions will be good for Celestia 1.6.2 1.7.0 until you think of something better.

Gravity lenses can't be created in today's Celestia as in the Space Engine. We need to change the code.

But it's a victory, too!
At least because our drives emit heat and have a temperature that SE does not have :wink: .

Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:Also, is it ok with you if I use a screenshot of your Sagittarius A* as my new profile pic? Thanks in advance

I've already seen a change in your avatar.

You could, of course, but in my opinion, you would have waited a little longer for the appearance of the current black holes :smile: because my unrenewed Sagittarius A... looks weird compared to these cosmic beauties.

Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:Also, with regard to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q0906 6930 , the black hole you just made is quiet a known one. It's the most distant blazar, that's for one. But for the distance, there is the distance of 12.3 billion light years, and the co-moving distance of about 26 billion light years. And in yours, the distance says 22815, and what appears to be the Cyrillic version of the word Megaparsec. Supposing that it is indeed 22815 Megaparsecs, the equivalent in light years is around 74412577576.1 light years. Is your distance estimate the correct one?


So.I read your critique
And yes... you're right. The distance is too close.
Looks like I've been working with quasars and such crazy distances.

I did not measure distance in light years (many people just can't do it because it's unknown), but by the cosmological red shift.
According to SIMBAD, the cosmological shift of QSO J0906+6930 was 5.404 z=22815 Megaparsecs.

But I somehow didn't check that these are probably outdated measurements.

According to NED (extragalactic NASA database), this probably S0 galaxy has red mixing 5.47 z=75323662801 ly if I correctly calculated.

Error. Correct. 8200 Mpc.
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Post #70by Gurren Lagann » 23.12.2019, 14:48

75,323,662,801 light-years? Wasn't that outside the observable universe?

Its supposed to be 26.7 billion light-years, according to Wolfram Alpha.
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Post #71by SVision » 23.12.2019, 15:29

Yes :weirdface: ...
Looks like I need a break from this kind of computation.
Counted it and you're right...

Gurren Lagann wrote:Its supposed to be 26.7 billion light-years, according to Wolfram Alpha.

Wow. I didn't know about this service. Thank you
I'll use it to make sure I'm not mistaken.

Hm
I thought no one was making converters or sites to do this kind of calculation quickly.

I've been sitting over there "in the old-fashioned way" at the formulas and calculating...
Got it... Gotta rest up and go.

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I'll fix the bugs later and check the other ones normally calculated or the same.

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Post #72by Lafuente_Astronomy » 23.12.2019, 20:15

There may be a redshift calculator in the internet out there somwwhere. I went into one but I don't know how to write down the needed stuff so I didn't use it.
SVision wrote:Yes.
I am currently working on an addon that will add to Celestia the most distant objects that man knows (galaxies, etc.).
A lot of work... and creating black holes with sprites...
That's why I'm looking for methods that make black+rendering easier and more realistic.

I think these black hole versions will be good for Celestia 1.6.2 1.7.0 until you think of something better.

Gravity lenses can't be created in today's Celestia as in the Space Engine. We need to change the code.

But it's a victory, too!
At least because our drives emit heat and have a temperature that SE does not have .

Well, I can't wait for that next addon. Based on what you said, it might be bigger than your previous addons combined. Of course, you may have to check their distances using the proper redshift calculations before you proceed. And then, not only will the black holes you made will look very good but also very accurate to the last quantum foam.

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I found a bunch of online redshift caculators that I think could be useful to you, in both your redshift calculating and personal accurate calculating techniques. Try each one if you feel like it, and let me know if any of them satisfies your perfectionist standards:
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/redshift
https://ned.ipac.caltech.edu/help/cosmology_calc.html
http://astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
https://home.fnal.gov/~gnedin/cc/
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=redshift calculator
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Post #73by Lafuente_Astronomy » 26.12.2019, 00:03

SVision, I have a suggestion.

You've included GCIRS 13E in your Milky Way Center 2.0 file, and it is rightfully listed as an open cluster. However, scientists have found out that the actual mass of GCIRS 13E contains way more mass than the mass of all its members combined, leading them to conclude that there is a black hole with a mass of around 1300 solar masses present at the center. I think it can be added there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GCIRS_13E

There is also a hidden black hole within the gas cloud HCN-0.009-0.044 with a mass of around 32,000 Solar Masses:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCN-0.009-0.044
https://phys.org/news/2019-03-black-hole.html

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Also, have you check if the distance measurements of your objects are all accurate?
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Post #74by SVision » 26.12.2019, 14:18

Black hole GCIRS 13E already exists

She just has a different name in SIMBAD known as GCIRS 13NE.

About the orbit in the interstellar cloud CXOGCS J174501.0-292359, I'm not sure about its nature yet.
There are suspicions that it's not a black hole.

New research is required to add it as a black hole.

And so... a interstellar cloud is added as well.

As for the center of the Milky Way, I know 1000 objects that claim to be black holes in the stellar masses.

But... there's not much information on these candidates, and their nature is also uncertain. Maybe they're neutron stars or something.

That's why I'm not getting involved with them yet.

By the way
I'm here to start and upgrade the black holes in the middle of the Milky Way.

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updated by black hole CXOGCS J174501.0-292359

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GCIRS 13NE(she is GCIRS 13E)


Sagittarius A will also be updated soon :smile:

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Just read the news that a black hole in the interstellar cloud HCN-0.009-0.044 was still found

Okay. Then I'll add it soon.

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I did the essays. It's all right now.

Now I'm climbing into the "insides" of black holes. I'm trying to create singularity (and someone will get a hypothetical object "Plank Star"), etc.

That's not good. But I'm trying to...
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Post #75by Lafuente_Astronomy » 26.12.2019, 14:26

Those are all looking good, so good in fact, they are beyond accurate, so to speak. Do you aim to finish the new Milky Way Center before the end of the year, or will you release it sometime in 2020?

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Also, will you add even more stars and gas/dust clouds into the update version of The Milky Way Center addon?
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Post #76by SVision » 26.12.2019, 14:40

I think the updated Milky Way Center will still be available for download in 2020.

I doubt I'll make it to Christmas and New Year's.
There's a lot of work to do.

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Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:Also, will you add even more stars and gas/dust clouds into the update version of The Milky Way Center addon?
Yes, of course :smile:

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Post #77by Lafuente_Astronomy » 26.12.2019, 14:58

SVision wrote:I think the updated Milky Way Center will still be available for download in 2020.

I doubt I'll make it to Christmas and New Year's.
There's a lot of work to do.

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Alright. That's good to hear. I know that it's gonna be looking good when you'll update and release it in 2020.

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Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:Also, will you add even more stars and gas/dust clouds into the update version of The Milky Way Center addon?
Yes, of course

Alright. That'll give it more members and details. Thanks a lot
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Post #78by Lafuente_Astronomy » 11.01.2020, 12:37

Lafuente_Astronomy wrote:
SVision wrote:Lafuente_Astronomy hello

I work hard on addons
Soon to be added (possible) wide double black hole system PSO J334.2028+01.4075 .

I'm also trying to scientifically present what hypothetical quark S stars and "planets" look like. Successful. I'll show you soon, too.

Well, that's nice to hear that from you! I got a feeling that the next addon you'll finish will be looking good in most, if not all computers. And will have way more stuff and information than before as well! If you will reply to this, feel free to do it here, but I would prefer if you will write it in your topic, as this topic is not the place to discuss black holes and your addons

Alright. As promised, I'll continue the thread started in Anthony's Topic here, so as to prevent flooding Anthony's topic with off-topic talk. Feel free to reply here
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Post #79by Anthony_B_Russo10 » 11.01.2020, 14:18

Which topic of mine do you to prevent from being flooded?

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Post #80by Lafuente_Astronomy » 11.01.2020, 14:33

Anthony_B_Russo10 wrote:Which topic of mine do you to prevent from being flooded?

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Never mind.

Yup. Didn't wanna turn your topic about your addon of the Celestia Logo into a discussion about Vision's Black Hole Addons, because otherwise, that'll be a big slap to your face
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