Lua Edu Tools Pro

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Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #1by jogad » 16.12.2012, 09:17

alexell wrote:On my forum, we develop a modification: Lua Edu Tools Pro
Yes. I had a look and seems interesting.
(maybe a little too heavy on the screen for me)
Unfortunately I do not understand anything

Is there a link to test it ?
Do you keep the original ability of Lua Edu Tool to be easily translatable with the "locale" files ?
Can you tell more about this program ?

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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #2by Alexell » 18.12.2012, 09:26

Before writing about the development of the Russian Lua Edu Tools Pro, I would like to apologize for my English.

Composite screenshot:

lua_edu_tools_pro_develope.jpg


Differences between the new version of the original Lua Edu tools:

1. Improved design
2. Adds new features
3. uUluchshennaya ergonomics (transfer of certain functions from the 2nd level of accessibility to the first, the replacement of keyboard commands to push buttons).

Panel:
1. "Settings" - improved layout
2. "Solar System Catalog" - was close, was spacious, fixed bugs associated with reflection Picture Systems
3. "Addon Catalog" - no change
4. Information panel "Kepler Param" - Fixed shielding panel cockpit
5. Information panel "Help" (the new name "About the Object") - Fixed shielding panel cockpit.
6. Panel Time adjustment (the new name "The Time Machine") - an improved design.
7. Decorative panel "Cabin SC" - no change.

The new panels:
8. Background Panel "Keyboard shortcuts" (except for commands)
9. Background Panel "Commands" (space navigation and space flight).
10. Panel "My Telescope" - in development.

Regulators:
1. FOV - become more compact, advanced design,
2. Magnitude - also
3. BGalaxy light - also
4. Ambient light level - too

Button for more information and the settings of the 1st level of availability:
1. [Magnification]
2. [Coordinates]
3. [Distance]
4. [HR Diagram]

New:
5. [Render] (3 types) - moved from level 2
6. [Stars] (yes / no) - Clone Level 2
7. [Clouds +] (yes / no) - clone 2 level clouds and atmosphere
8. [Stars style] (3 types) - transferred to the 2nd level

Display "Space Navigation":
1st information line - works
2nd data line - works

Space navigation control buttons:
1. [Back] - [>> to objects]
2. [Watching] - also
3. [Sync. rotations.], too
4. [Tracking] - also

New:
5. [>> To the Sun]
6. [Sun > Center]
7. [Land > Center]
8. [2 >> in the center] - do not write code management
9. [Maintenance] - not code the control
10. [Lock object]

Navigation buttons History - 3 pcs. not programmed yet.

Display "Space flight"
1st information line - do not write code
2nd data line - do not write code

Mission Control Buttons:
New:

1. [Faster]
2. [Slower]
3. [Stop]
4. 6 buttons rates [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]
5. 3 buttons in the development

Other buttons:

1. [Cabin SC] - formerly called "Cockpit"
2. [Joystick] - formerly called "Manage." The new design
3. [Compass] - new design
4. [>> On the surface] - formerly called "Planetarium"
5. [>> Home in Space. Quick] - formerly called the "Navigation"

New:
6. [Title + V]
7. [Orbit] - clone Level 2
8. [Grid] - clone Level 2

That need to finish:
1. Time Machine to add the week.
2. Write code to the information line on Time Machine on the delay of light
3. Write the code for the panel to change the home telescope
4. Write code to lines of information space flight - speed and coverage path)
5. Connect button navigation history 3 keys
6. Write the code for the buttons: [Maintenance], [>> in the center]
7. Combine the joystick and a compass.
8. Eliminate the dependence of opening / closing the panels [Clavius. team] and [my telescope] from the panel [Settings] and [Commands Ctrl.]

Added:
Currently, the localization of some new components is not working, but in the future we'll fix it.
All of the old buttons have been changed. All of them were half the width. Changed the color palette, like new.
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #3by jogad » 18.12.2012, 10:56

Yes. Rather impressive!

Is it possible to have a download link to test :?:

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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #4by piellepi » 18.12.2012, 12:05

@jogad
please follow the link at the end of Alexell's post (Celestia in Russia) !! :wink:

Of course the whole site is written in Russian language, but it's not difficult to find what you want!!

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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #5by Alexell » 18.12.2012, 14:21

jogad wrote:...Is it possible to have a download link to test :?:

Link to write, when to fix the
problems with localization.
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #6by Alexell » 18.12.2012, 14:28

piellepi wrote:@jogad
please follow the link at the end of Alexell's post (Celestia in Russia) !! :wink:

Of course the whole site is written in Russian language, but it's not difficult to find what you want!!
On my forum guests links and attachments are not available and you need to register :mrgreen:
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #7by Alexell » 18.12.2012, 14:35

Added 4 color schemes, and easy switching between them will be using Celestia Config Manager (see viewtopic.php?f=25&t=17113).
Screenshots (sorry, that in Russian, there was no time to switch to English.):

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By the way the color scheme there are bugs, but in the future we will make it right. Probably :mrgreen:
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #8by John Van Vliet » 18.12.2012, 23:13

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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #9by jogad » 19.12.2012, 16:32

alexell wrote:
jogad wrote:...Is it possible to have a download link to test :?:
Link to write, when to fix the
problems with localization.
Localization is not the most important issue.
These issues are easy to fix. :wink:
For example here is a screen with the French locale:

Click on the picture to see the details
nice.jpg

I have updated the width of the tool panels and it solves most of the problems.

:( There is a bug in the Russian compass: North and South are inverted and the directions are wrong. I have fixed it for the French version.
:( The virtual pad has the same image than the compass. But it is not rotating. Furthermore, it is not really localized. I don't see the reason of changing the standard tool.

Some buttons do not work, but I suppose this is because the tools is in developement.

The most annoying issue for me is this:

I tried to customize the tools by adding or removing some boxes, as I used to do in the original version.
This brokes entirely the layout of the tools.

If someone makes a new addon, it will be pratically impossible for the user to install it.
Even replacing the standard "cokpitBox" addon with my own "cockpitsBox" addon creates problems!

:arrow: This lack of flexibility is the main drawback of this version.
In my opinion, you must absolutely retain the ability for the user to customize easily his tools.

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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #10by Alexell » 21.12.2012, 08:12

  • Of error in the compass, I wrote on my forum.
  • All the yellow button until programmed, and the rest should work.
  • But with the flexibility of the tool is really a big problem, for example, because we can not add new files and write the code in them.

I hope we will be able to refine the tool and fix its shortcomings.
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #11by Fenerit » 21.12.2012, 12:45

My dream with any enhanced version of LUATOOLS should be the integration of things like these

BTW, the Planetary, Lunar, and Stellar Visibility is freeware for Windows OS.
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #12by t00fri » 21.12.2012, 13:31

Fenerit wrote:My dream with any enhanced version of LUATOOLS should be the integration of things like these

BTW, the Planetary, Lunar, and Stellar Visibility is freeware for Windows OS.

Some of those features are included in the Qt version 1.7.x of Celestia at SVN. One might also wonder whether such pure (2D) ephemeris aspects should be embedded at all into a 3D visualization like Celestia. There is highly accurate specialized ephemeris software like e.g. XEphem (free & open source).

http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/xephem.html

Usually such programs also include the possibility of steering amateur telescopes in real time etc.

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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #13by Fenerit » 21.12.2012, 14:35

I do not wish to go out of topic thus I will quit soon.
t00fri wrote:One might also wonder whether such pure (2D) ephemeris aspects should be embedded at all into a 3D visualization like Celestia.
why not? :mrgreen: Of course just through LUATOOLS, not as deep planned Celestia's features. And with a table/plots print capability for quick reminder/visualization. For example, I and my friends we have a small fish boat and in these days we are fishing in the night-to-morning. Well, in two months the sea salinity has already destroyed the cheap notebook with Celestia and Stellarium on board I use to-check-and-to-see in "old" manner, measuring the altitudes of Venus, Saturn and Mercury at dawn with an "old" (a reproduction) medieval brass astrolabe. A table of paper is indeed more useful. :wink:
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Re: Lua Edu Tools Pro

Post #14by CelestiaFansInChina » 07.02.2013, 05:59

Oh It is very cool!


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